A New Paradigm of Consciousness - with Mark Gober

Guest Introduction:

Mark Gober is the author of the book, “An End to Upside Down Thinking: Dispelling the Myth That the Brain Produces Consciousness, and the Implications for Everyday Life.” His worldview attempts to flip the prevailing view in science that consciousness comes from the brain. Mark has became convinced that biology does not produce consciousness; rather, consciousness produces biology. Today, he’s going to share his theories on human consciousness, and what that means for our lives.

Interview Summary:

In this interview, Mark first talks about how he got interested in the topic of consciousness. He breaks down the old paradigm that biology produces consciousness, and then defines what consciousness is. He explains where he thinks it comes from, and what led him to that conclusion. Mark then references a couple of phenomena, including particle entanglement and the observer effect, which show how physics breaks down at very small scales. He expands on his theory that consciousness experiences itself through different physical lenses.

Next, we ask Mark how this idea has changed the way he thinks about and approaches the world. Chris explores some counterarguments and possible limitations of Mark’s theory. Mark then talks about near death experiences and provides some examples from his book. He goes on to discuss “wizard-like abilities” such as telepathy, precognition, and remote viewing, and reveals the scientific evidence for these phenomena. Chris shares his insights and connects Mark’s theories to modern technology.

Mark then explains what psychokinesis is and offers additional examples and evidence. Chris comments on the limitations of the human mind. Finally, we ask Mark about the implications of this new paradigm of consciousness in terms of how we feel and how we relate to each other. He expands on the notion of interconnectedness, and how it becomes irrational to do harm to others if we’re all part of the same consciousness. Chris also relates Mark’s ideas to autonomous cars and human needs, and Mark offers some last insights.